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Janeway VS the Universe by Raax-theIceWarrior Janeway VS the Universe by Raax-theIceWarrior
This was a picture done for :iconjustplainchez:. Who wanted me to draw Captain Janeway from Star Trek Voyager kicking ass. As you can see. I went seriously overboard.

This is my first time drawing most Star Trek based things. Including the Borg, the Hirogen, and Species bloub-be-dei-bluub-de-dei-do (coz I can't remember the number)
I was gonna have Janeway's hair down but everytime I tried to draw it didn't look right. I was able to get it after I did her hair up.

She's a big fan of Janeway. And I also managed to add her in the picture as well. She's the purple officer standing next to Chakotay. Normally she wears purple so I decided to give her a purple uniform. What would that be? Well, if blue is science and red is command, then that would make her -scientific command? It could happen. There are science/research federation ships. Maybe the officers have slightly different colour schemes (because then just about everyone would be blue)
(also, I added in Seven because she's cool)

Also, I was told it might be the actresses birthday today (depending on the time difference in America) if so- Then Happy Birthday Captain Janeway!
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Zumbotron Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
To the guy on top of the cliff

"OF COURSE SHE DOESN'T, she's Captain Janeway damn it"
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
Indeed ;)
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purple-jasmine17 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
HAHAHA love 7 in the back
you go girl
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
Just cos 7 is badass :)
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purple-jasmine17 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2013
I know
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LittleRedRahRah Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
Love this pic, Janeway totally kicks ass!
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2012
Glad you approve
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jampen Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
well, duh, why would she need their help? She's Captain Janeway! :) lovely pic :)
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
The Captain of a Star ship should always been able to handle themselves, even in hand-to-hand combat with the Borg and the Hirogen
Thank you
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MichaelJackson82 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012
So true! Voyager is the best ST series, and Janeway is better than Kirk and Picard put together.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2012
Well, glad you enjoy Janeway being kickass.
I'll always a soft spot for Picard though.
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kndon12 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2012
OMAGOODNESS you have the Bun of Steel on Janeway!!!! [link]
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
Thanks ^^;
(That's the second time this has happened. You left a link on the comment but it just seemed to send me back to my own page)
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Kavahle22 Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2012  Student General Artist
Holy Taurg! kick-ass!
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2012
Thanks (each Captain gets at least one kickass moment)
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Fawkes21 Featured By Owner May 22, 2011
Hehe I love it :-)

You mean Species 8472?? :P
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 22, 2011
Thanks very much

Or it could be Species 8471, almost the same but with different colour eyes? :D
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JustPlainChez Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
Oops.
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JustPlainChez Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
This is quite possibly the best thing I have seen in ages. Janeway in a kickass fight! And who's that gorgeous science command officer up there on the hill? She's just checking Janeway is being her usual awesome self. Fantastic picture!
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
Well, I am glad you liked it so much! :)
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JustPlainChez Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
This is quite possibly the best thing I have seen in ages. Janeway in a kickass fight! And who's that gorgeous science command officer up there on the hill? She's just checking Janeway is being her usual awesome self. Fantastic picture!
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 18, 2011
Hmmm... I wonder who this is :O
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Lieju Featured By Owner May 8, 2011
I'm not really a big fan of Janeway. And Voyager was a disappointment in my opinion in general.

I liked Seven of Nine, though.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 8, 2011
Truth to be told, I'm not a big fan of her either. Voyager isn't my favourite series. My dad's always been more of a TNG fan so I prefer watching that more.

I do like Seven, though, she's a great actress and one of the most interesting characters in the range.
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Lieju Featured By Owner May 9, 2011
I liked Doctor too, and he was one who had some real development and interesting issues and plot-lines.
Actually, when I look at the Star Trek-series, my favourite characters are always the ones who are almost human but not quite, and always outsiders to some extent;
Spock, Data, Odo, Doctor, T'pol...

TNG is probably my favourite, although I have a soft spot for TOS.

Voyager (and Enterprise too, I guess)is hated by quite a lot of Star Trek fans, I find.

Voyager had potential, but they never really took full advantage of the setup, how vulnerable a ship like that, alone in an unknown quadrant would be, and how it would really affect their crew and ship.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 9, 2011
I liked Doctor, I like the episodes of his requited love for Seven and such. Because also because both of them are the best characters in terms of how they can be developed and their problems, which are so much more interesting and vaired than all the other human characters.

Well, those characters have alot of appeal because of their non-human traits, but also from seeing human qualities in non-human characters. But they all have more exotic character points that can be explored. all those characters generally have more potental than the normal human characters and more gets made of their unique problems than the human characters.

I've always been more aquanted to TNG, which I really do like, things like Best of Both Worlds is such a great episode. But the Original Series was the one that started it all, so you always have to love it. And in the episodes where they do actually explore the deeper themes, that it gets really good.

I read this review which said the reason why we love Doctor Who is because of the humanity that comes from his non-humanness. Essentially, the Doctor can be smart and smug and annoying and things like proper humans do which you don't quite see in the Captain Kirk style characters because they have to be the very best of humanity.
Bweing human suddenly becoming a restraint for the character.

Everytime I watch Voyager I do kindof think about how it could have been done differently. Stuff like them running out of supplies, slowly losing all their crew, and the fact that's it's harder to reinforce Federation law when you can't actually just get reinforcements from the nearest Starbase whenever you want. The tension between the Makei and them having to share a Federation ship, I don't think was fully utilized either. Just little things, more character conflicts, a stronger focus on survival would have made that series stand out alot from the previous ones.
I always generally think that my opinions of Voyager are slanted by my interests in Warhammer since it was created as something of an antithesis to those types of sci-fi shows. But generally, I always think that at least one of the characters should have either gone mad or something like that at one point.
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Lieju Featured By Owner May 9, 2011
"Well, those characters have alot of appeal because of their non-human traits, but also from seeing human qualities in non-human characters. But they all have more exotic character points that can be explored. all those characters generally have more potental than the normal human characters and more gets made of their unique problems than the human characters."

And they all are kinda outsiders, and at some way looking in from the outside of the culture of humans, and in some cases, other humanoids.

"I read this review which said the reason why we love Doctor Who is because of the humanity that comes from his non-humanness. Essentially, the Doctor can be smart and smug and annoying and things like proper humans do which you don't quite see in the Captain Kirk style characters because they have to be the very best of humanity.
Bweing human suddenly becoming a restraint for the character."

I think in the case of Doctor, he is more than a non-human, an outsider, even among his own people. The time-lords always seemed very human to me.

But the Doctor is an outsider, and free, he has a machine that can take him to anywhere he wants to. As opposed to Captains and other people of Starfleet, who belong to a federation, and an organisation. And in many cases have families and jobs. Even Kirk has his crew and regulations to think of. So that's kinda something that's going to affect heavily the characterisation to begin with.

"I always generally think that my opinions of Voyager are slanted by my interests in Warhammer since it was created as something of an antithesis to those types of sci-fi shows."

Deep Space nine and Voyager were darker than TNG or TOS, really. Not as much as the Warhammer, I suppose.

And yeah, Voyager didn't go far enough. I read about some people that were associated with it, and would have wanted to make it more survival-thing, and very different, but the project ended up going to a more safe direction.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 9, 2011
Well, it seems they all sort of fall into the outsider category (a natural enough response when they're all aliens) but I suppose it more interesting to see a character struggling against society or whatever since their conflicts lead to more character exploration.
Every sort of human being has that feeling of loneliness at some point in their lives. So it something everyone can emphasize with. But to some extent those characters just seem more rounded than half the human cast.
I dunno, back when I was coming up with my Warhammer story the most rounded character in the whole thing was one of my alien characters. And there are parts of her character that I don't think would've have been as powerful if she was one of the humans.

'Deep Space nine and Voyager were darker than TNG or TOS, really. Not as much as the Warhammer, I suppose.'

Well... in comparison to Warhammer...
(Inquistor watching Star Trek whilst pulling someones' teeth out with a pair of rusty pilers): You call this dark?

I think the really dark route would have been good for something like an spinoff production. Or an AU comic or such. I can see why they probably went more with the safe root, either because they were worried about pressure from the company, or worried about getting lynched by the fanbase.
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Lieju Featured By Owner May 10, 2011
"I dunno, back when I was coming up with my Warhammer story the most rounded character in the whole thing was one of my alien characters. And there are parts of her character that I don't think would've have been as powerful if she was one of the humans."
Maybe if they have a bigger role in the story. But alien/fantasy creature characters have a big risk of falling into stereotypes, especially if they have a small role. It's similar to human minorities, but no one is really going to be angry that the Klingons are again portrayed as honor-obsessed warriors.

On the other hand, writing issues for them can be easier, since you don't have to worry about offending real people with the way you depict their culture, and you can use their differences from humans to explore those topics.

But quite often writers fall in the trap of writing a species instead of characters. It's fine, if it's the first time we see them, and are just getting familiar with them, but eventually you'll need to have characters.

DS9 did it well, having Bajoran, Cardassian and Ferengi species AND characters who, while a part of the species, were so much more.

"(Inquistor watching Star Trek whilst pulling someones' teeth out with a pair of rusty pilers): You call this dark? "
I recall Cardassians being torture-happy, and there being few of such scenes in DS9 (and perhaps TNG?), but I think it was less "I tear off your limbs now", and more "I put this device on you that causes immense physical pain now".

Tal Shiar too, I think, although with more advanced and sneaky methods.

"I can see why they probably went more with the safe root, either because they were worried about pressure from the company, or worried about getting lynched by the fanbase."
I think there's probably also the possibility that while they wanted or were thinking to do things differently, the way they do the series was already set from the previous Star Trek series, and for the production team, changing things might be difficult.

For example, they probably didn't always shoot the episodes in order, so implementing some kind of constant change in the visuals might have been very tricky. Like, if the bridge is damaged in battle, so that it would be damaged in the subsecuent episodes.

Also the way it was shot was very episodical, even more so than DS9, and in general DS9 implemented these continuous storylines better.

They might have made the conscious decision of making this very episodical, which would make sense, since unlike DS9, they were constantly travelling, and could meet new aliens every week, and then leave them behind.

But this didn't work that well for the overall change in the ship.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 10, 2011
'But alien/fantasy creature characters have a big risk of falling into stereotypes, especially if they have a small role.'

Well, I suppose world building exercises are what can help with that. But when they only have a small part it's harder to get a deeper look at the characters.
One of the books I'm reading for English at the moment is actually a sci-fi book, it has a very deep emphasis on the world-building aspect, really the characters are just conduits into showing us the world. It's all very deep but can be quite dull at some points.

'I recall Cardassians being torture-happy, and there being few of such scenes in DS9 (and perhaps TNG?), but I think it was less "I tear off your limbs now", and more "I put this device on you that causes immense physical pain now".'

Warhammer is just so OTT in its darkness factor by now. Anything Star Trek does can't really compare.

'For example, they probably didn't always shoot the episodes in order, so implementing some kind of constant change in the visuals might have been very tricky.'

They did that with TNG if I remember, when Tasa Yar died that wasn't the last episode the actress recorded. The previous episode was her last appearance. In the last scene she's in, she walks into the background while two characters have a chat. As the doors close you can see her do a wave to the camera.

But the sense of change can still be done at least in the scriptwriting- acknowledging stuff that happened, someone on the script writing team really should have kept a list of how many crew members kept getting killed each week. So you still feel this element of their resources getting whittled down as it goes on.

But such an approach in the episode production probably wasn't the best choice for filming a series which should have had a strong sense of continuity like Voyager
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donatien1740 Featured By Owner May 5, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't htink you went overboard, wasn't the series just like that? :XD:
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 5, 2011
I must have missed a couple of episodes :D
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Skiptrix Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
Badass :D
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 5, 2011
Captain Janeway - kicking the universe one ass at a time.
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mashovasho Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
Well, I know next to nothing about Star Trek, but I love that green laser stuff! Great pose as well :lol:
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
Thanks

I have no idea what laser she's using. I coloured it in then realised that Star Trek lasers are blue. Bugger.
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mashovasho Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
Haha! Well, like you said Star Trek doesn't have any purple uniforms either, so I guess all bets are off. :D
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
Anything can happen! :evillaugh: MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Chrisofedf Featured By Owner May 4, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Very cool :) , don't think you went overboard enough, cant see any ships melting from the resonance of her voice.
I dig the science uniform.

Voyager was a good show :)
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 4, 2011
I would have loved to have added in details like that. It does need more aliens sprawled around the place. I did this fairly quickly, in a night. Staying up to 1 to finish it. :X

Purple would be a nice colour, they should use it :)

I have my opinions about Voyager. I'm not too willing to post them up for fear of getting lynched by ravenous Star Trek fans. Also my opinion is obscured by being into Warhammer.
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Chrisofedf Featured By Owner May 4, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Its still very good :)

If it makes you feel better i'm happy to say in front of the public that i prefer Enterprise. I just need to have an escape route planned.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 5, 2011
My dad really likes Enterprise, and he's the big Star Trek fan.

My thing about Voyager is I think it needed to look more dirty. It's not really like they can just pick up new supplies and crew at the nearest Starbase. If the warp core blew up in an episode they couldn't just fetch a replacement, but by the next episode it would be fine again. My thoughts was it would have been better if there'd been more of a focus on survival.

But saying that I do love the Captain Proton episodes and any episode which focuses on Geri Ryan, because she is amazing.
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Chrisofedf Featured By Owner May 6, 2011  Professional Filmographer
Agreed. it came back in better condition than it left. I was hoping for something like Year of hell, which was epic.
I liked the way in Enterprise if they blasted a big hole in the side of the ship, it would still be there in the next episode.
I remember in Voyager "Deadlock" (after glossing over the fact that Harry was brutally thrown out into the cold vacuum of space (But its ok because we just got another Harry who quite possibly could be a very different person (not that we'll ever know))) the bridge gets blown off and Belana says they'll have it fixed by the end of the week.
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Raax-theIceWarrior Featured By Owner May 6, 2011
I haven't seen 'Year of Hell' or if I have... not all the way through. I would like to see the ship more like that. Just like, every episode. If they start messing up and breaking the sets they should go 'well, why bother fixing it?' so it has some sort of consistancy.

It's mainly the Warhammer fan/Evangelion fan in me talking but I would have liked to see the series being a lot darker, but often I feel I'm missing the point of Star Trek to a big extent.

I think also what they should have had was to keep a list of exactly how many crew there are. If one guys script says '(this amount) of people were killed in that Borg attack' and another guys script says '(that amount) of people died in that engine core explosion' and every week you can see the crew count is actually whittling down. By the end they've got a bare bone of people.

'the bridge gets blown off and Belana says they'll have it fixed by the end of the week.'

With what? What raw materials do they have stashed away which can just repair ANYthing on the ship?
Surely not every planet in the Delta quadrant has stuff which is instantly compatable for their ship. I'm sure half of the engineering section shouldn't actually know how to build a ship from scratch.
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